Talk:Northern Cyprus

officially the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (TRNC)

I think the term "officially the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus" is wrong as the island of Cyprus is still under Turkish occupation and Officially not recognised as a country, only by the Turkish government which are the military force still occupying the northern part of Cyprus.

Maybe if you change it to "also known as the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus" would help people understand more as this is misleading to people and countries that don't know the situation.

I hope that a worldwide known source of information as your site would try to be neutral in all political situations and try to get the facts right.

As i saw in other responses, the word "Official" is erroneous and totally misleading to false information.

And because i know your response of "The use of the word "officially" refers to its own official description of itself, unrelated to what other states recognise it as", the word "Official" is used in a formal or authoritative manner, where in this case none of that arguments are true.

There is no formal government apart from the one the occupying force of Turkey is authorising and TRNC has no authority in the world as it is NOT recognised as a country!!!

Again, i only ask to change the word officially to something more correct as stated above. 31.153.117.40 (talk) 18:22, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

Officially in this sense is used to mean "what it calls itself". Same as how the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, the Commonwealth of Australia, and the Republic of Türkiye are the "official" names of those respective three states, but they don't actually have any ability to make you call them that and not Britain (or England), Australia, or Turkey. --2001:8003:1C20:8C00:6D5F:BFE3:2975:276E (talk) 09:28, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

Please remove water percentage.

The water percentage of Northern Cyprus is obviously nowhere near 2.7%. The 2.7% is actually Iceland's old water percentage. It happened when someone copied over the infobox from Iceland to make editing easier. Northern Cyprus has no official water percentage, so none should be listed. 99.64.160.215 (talk) 00:19, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

 Done M.Bitton (talk) 01:34, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

Turkish Federated State of Cyprus date should be February

Hello, currently the article's infobox states:

• Turkish Federated State of Cyprus

13 October 1975

This should be changed into 13 February 1975 which is the correct date, as can be seen on the article of the Federated State itself. I would do it myself but there's extended protection in place. Thanks. DjemDruid (talk) 08:37, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

 Done Beshogur (talk) 09:17, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

The legitimacy of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (TRNC) is recognized worldwide (International court rulings and national court decisions of various countries)

• The International Court of Justice (ICJ) Ruling on Kosovo (2010):
  

"THERE IS NOTHING IN INTERNATIONAL LAW THAT PROHIBITS DECLARATIONS OF INDEPENDENCE, and the RECOGNITION OF A STATE IS A POLITICAL MATTER."

The United States of America (USA), in the ICJ’s 2010 Kosovo ruling, rejected the Greek Cypriot stance and issued a statement favorable to the Turkish Cypriots:

Harold Hongju Koh (The USA's representative in the UN-ICJ 2010 Kosovo case on behalf of the USA): "The argument advanced by Cyprus against the legality of Kosovo’s unilateral declaration of independence is incorrect. Cyprus attempted to compare the 1244 process to the 'heartbreaking but misleading situation' of a parent sending their young child into state care, never to see them again. I argued, however, that a more accurate analogy would be the futile attempt by the state to forcibly return an adult child to an abusive home when the child no longer wishes to return, especially after the parent and child have LONG LIVED APART, and REPEATED ATTEMPTS AT RECONCILIATION HAVE REPEATEDLY FAILED. In such a case, as here, a DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE WOULD BE THE ONLY VALID OPTION and would undoubtedly be lawful.”
https://www.icj-cij.org/public/files/case-related/141/141-20091208-ORA-01-00-BI.pdf (Page38; Paragraph40)

Accordingly, the US Federal Court (on 9 October 2014) declared the TRNC as a "democratic republic with a president, a prime minister, a legislative body, and a judiciary."

In the UN-ICJ 2010 Kosovo ruling, ICJ Judge Trindade: "The emphasis has shifted from the status of the TERRITORIES to the NEEDS AND DESIRES OF THE PEOPLE."
https://www.icj-cij.org/sites/default/files/case-related/141/141-20100722-ADV-01-08-EN.pdf (Page550; Paragraph66)

• The European Court of Human Rights (ECHR; 2 July 2013):
  

"Although the regime in the northern area lacks international recognition, THE DE FACTO RECOGNITION OF THE REGIME’S ACTIONS IN THE NORTH MAY BE NECESSARY FOR PRACTICAL PURPOSES. Therefore, the adoption of civil, administrative, or criminal legal measures by the authorities of the 'TRNC', and their application or enforcement within the territory of the regime in the north, may be seen as having a LEGAL BASIS IN DOMESTIC LAW for the purposes of the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR)."
http://hudoc.echr.coe.int/eng?i=001-122907

• The United States Federal Court (9 October 2014):
  

"...Although the US does not recognize the TRNC as a state, it can be said that the TRNC purportedly operates as a DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC with a president, prime minister, legislature and judiciary...The TRNC is NOT vulnerable to a lawsuit in Washington."
https://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/district-of-columbia/dcdce/1:2009cv01967/139002/53

• The European Court of Human Rights (ECHR; 2 September 2015):
  

"The judicial system in the 'TRNC', including both civil and criminal courts, reflects the judicial and customary law tradition of Cyprus in its operation and procedures, and therefore, the courts of the 'TRNC' should be regarded as 'established by law' in reference to their 'constitutional and legal foundation. The ECHR had previously ruled that the judicial system established in the 'TRNC' should be considered 'established by law' based on the 'constitutional and legal foundation' that sustains it. Moreover, the ECHR does NOT accept that the courts in the 'TRNC', as a whole, lack independence and/or impartiality. When an action by the authorities of the 'TRNC' complies with the EXISTING LAWS OF NORTHERN CYPRUS, such actions, in principle, have a legal basis in domestic law for the purposes of the European Convention on Human Rights.
http://hudoc.echr.coe.int/eng?i=001-155000

PS: Here, the ECtHR, by referring to the "laws in force in the northern region of Cyprus", means the laws enacted and enforced by the TRNC in northern Cyprus (see the ECtHR’s 02July2013 ruling). In summary, according to the ECtHR, the courts of the TRNC are INDEPENDENT AND IMPARTIAL.

• United Kingdom High Court (3 February 2017):
  

"There was NO duty in UK law upon the Government to refrain from recognising Northern Cyprus. The United Nations itself works with Northern Cyprus law enforcement agencies and facilitates co-operation between the two parts of the island...The cooperation between the UK police and legal institutions in Northern Cyprus is LAWFUL."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/03/criminals-fleeing-british-justice-can-no-longer-use-cyprus-safe
http://ambamarblearch-media.com/sites/default/files/dpp_files/TT.pdf, Page6.212.174.38.177 (talk) 06:55, 10 October 2024 (UTC)